Cycling Simulator

DeRodeLantaarn November 29, 2021 at 03:57 pm

If you like to play with one team, if you don't have to be the number one right away and like to combine racing with managing skills this is the game for you.

Jerry July 05, 2021 at 12:32 pm

I wont refer myself too much to the game and how it is developed. It is quite nice and catchy, as I played it for 7 years.

Now, lets see how the game actually is:

If you want to see why the game is stupid designed, Bubba already wrote that underneath. So he has right and it is like he says.

Sadly I read his comment 1 year ago, and, ironically, what he predicted happened to me.

It is a game where everything is controlled by a group of people. The developer, the admin and some others who put the admin in place some years ago and control him now.

But the admin isnt that bad. It is poor that he is a slave, and actually he listens what the others in the group say. But the people that are behind him, those are the real garbages. They will always speak politely on the forum, but it is only a mask, so that people believe that they have good intentions. If you write anything about this on the public forum, you will be ofc mocked.

That doesnt mean all people in the game are bad. But less that 10% of the people who are playing are active on the forum, and there is mostly this chat group. If somebody disagrees with one of them, they all will come to mock you.

Now lets go further to what me and my friend experienced with this game.

There is no reason to say it all.

Main thing is we met one year and a half ago and started a project together. We had both less finances and were in a low division. In a year and a half we became 2 of the most dangerous managers for the top teams, as we scouted a lot manually, and found unbeliavable talents, which we sold for a lot of money.

A lot of people got envious, especially the chat teams+Velo Bored Cycling Team, who is, probably, the biggest jerk this game has ever seen. Some one nation teams were too and they all started to accuse us of cheating, which wasnt the case, obviously. We just refreshed the HL at 3 min for 8 months and wer simply better than the rest.

2 months ago, Velo Club opened a thread to complain about us, and many times accused us of cheating. The things got fired, and the developer, who has some issues with me for no reason, heard that it was us involved, so, for me to lose, he imposed some nonsense rules so we couldnt scout anymore like before.

BTW, one day I asked the developer for 20 free scouts in a game, and I made more donations for it. He got angry that Im wasting his time and told me to never donate again. I got heated to, but na, he is the developer, so I just told him: "You are not worth my money anyway". Pac, 1 year forum ban. The reason was, I insulted him. Poor him, yes.

Lets move on.

As things got heated and we were the only ones who constantly were against the leading group on the forum, they found a way to get rid of us. 2 days ago, suddenly I couldnt login anymore, and neither my friend could. 1 one before, Velo Club said on the forum,"I cant wait for the day you 2 are banned". One hour later, we were.

The reason for this was that we shared potentials on messenger. Every rider has a potential, and I sometimes scouted one stat and my friend another stat. The admin said we gathered a big advantage out of it, but that wasnt true. And even if it was, how can a game forbid you to play with a friend. I wont stress my mind around it, its a nonsense to explain. The admin said he just discovered it, but the main reason was that the main chat forced him to get rid of us. He knew what we were doing obviously, but only now he wanted us gone, maybe he was threatened, who knows, so he had this reason in the hand.

Then the admin opened a thread and a lot of people came there to celebrate. The reactions the next days were like "the cheating cartel is gone", "Im glad they are banned", "Im glad they are out", "Im happy the worst cheaters are out". I mean, you have to be a disguisting to be happy about the others pain, right?

Then we build another accounts, which is legal ofc, to state our story about it, but the admin deleted them all. Exactly, they delete everything that they dont like, because, he said, we were "spreading misinformation". Despite the fact that we were friends for more years, the admin named us "the banned teams", it was hard for him to pronounce our names.

So you cant write there anywhere cause it is deleted, I cant write press releases only after 1 month, so where can I write what I think? Nowhere.

On the short side, they are some teams who commented against the ban, but they had no chance of turning it around. The admin recognised today the rule 3, the rule which, I forgot to add, I didnt have a clue about, was vague. But he never told us, or attentioned us. I had no clue about the rule. And ofc; the rule, is stupid. Just because you have a friend to play with and the others dont, it isnt cheating...

So, like Bubba said, no warning, and you dont know youre doing anything wrong, just ban.

I dont want to talk about "friends" in the game, which whom I talked a lot and now write their happiness on the forum. The game has a check it out button, idiots.

Now the admin told me that there is no place in the game anymore, cause the developer wanted me out long ago. Ofc, because I insulted him:)))

Point is, if you are sincere and dont buy the bullshit, or wont accept the thing some teams rule the game and impose their ideas, you are screwed. There is no chance for you. You can be banned without a fair reason at any moment without warning. And remember, to climb up the rankings, youll need more years. The progress is very slow, as it is nothing that helps the beginners develop, only a manual, but that is not enough, and hidden to a newbie. Despite the fact that the barrier between the big teams and the newcomers is HUGE, imagine that for a race in a low division, you race 2 per week and the winner gets 8k, and in the Top Div they ride 7 per week and the winner gets 30k. They have millions in their accounts, one has 13000k, and you start with 100k...

Bassicaly the problem here is that people are arrogant, stupid and mean. Some smart ones said the ban smells bad, but the admin didnt have any decency to think about it. Ofc stupid people always think they own the truth and never put themselves in the position of the other. What about: "Hmm, they might be right, let me think...never.

And ofc, 3 told that, but 6 members from the leading group came, and just threw a rock in their face. 75% from the people that are commenting on the forum are 2-faced.

Aaa, and dont call them names. You will be banned for this.

The problem starts with the developer that is obsessed with his authority. He didnt create the game for ppl to have fun, but so that he has authority somewhere. The same with the admin, who is anyway a slave of the main group, so that he can maintain his position. A game should be a game, everyone should play for fun, but it is a torment.

Shit is, the game has caused me a lot of stress and pain during this years, I should have given up a long time ago. If you ask anyone outside the game they will say the way the developers and their pets in this game act is stupid and that they are stupid, only them wont agree.

Ironically is, some years ago I started a game inside the game called "We are teams together." So true in moments of despair...

So the admin said that theyre isnt place for me in the game anymore cause the developer will ban every team I create. Good. Thats the way. Congrats.

I dont recommend this game. Avoid it. Until maybe the admin or anyone else has a revelation. Its just a game, you are distroying 7 years of work, with 1 click. It is so mean and unfair. And anyone who sais, ah, they are rightfully banned or good they are gone is a jerk, a garbage and an idiot all in the same time.

Jim Lover March 22, 2021 at 01:12 pm

That's the most true thing I've ever read. It's just like this, maybe even worse nowadays. I can't describe how ugly some people behave there throwing hate at the sincere ones and beeing so 2 faced. I have all the respect for u man, its as true as u said.

DeRodeLantaarn February 21, 2019 at 11:37 pm

I see you are in division 1 now Bubba?
Well played!
For a game you hate so much.

Bubba June 20, 2018 at 12:03 am

Browser cycling games are a rare quantity on the internet these days and that truly is sad because it can be a very interesting subject for a text based manager game. The unpopularity of cycling as a subject for a game might be due to the rather obscure nature of the pro sport, plus the problems present in the sport such as doping which doesn't help much either. Although professional cycling is very popular in Europe, through out the rest of the world cycling is considered a minor sport at best and it's pretty much ignored by people interested in the other major sports such as American football, baseball basketball and others. If a cycling game is going to make it and be any good in the text based browser game world then it must be well done and portray the sport realistically. That unfortunately is where OCM fails and it fails miserably and I will telly you why. So stay with me.

First of all the games name is quite confusing because it is not a cycling race simulator like the title suggests, it's a text based manager game. If you want to play a cycling simulator then play Pro Cycling Manager because it is hands down the best true bike racing simulator around. This one is not good and you would have to be on dope in order to play it! So the moniker OCM or Online Cycling Manager would be a better fit and the simulator part needs to be dropped from the title because it is untrue, just like most of the other aspects of this poorly done manager game are.

I could literally go on and on about how badly this game was done but that would take a novel and would be way too boring. Which this game is by the way, boring to the max! I'll tell you about a few of the misconceptions in this game and that should be enough to keep you away. I do mean stay away because it is not a rewarding experience like many other sports management games are. Other games of this ilk rely on the players imagination and once you start this one that concept is totally thrown out the window because of the multitude of very unrealistic things present in this abortion. Plus it takes way to long to accomplish simple things like sending riders to do non race jobs in order to earn money.

The game has a rather nice concept but thats where the nicety ends. As an example, Under 23 or U23 races for riders 23 years and under are present but U23 in OCM is only for riders 22 and under. Once the rider reaches 23 his eligibility to race U23 ends which is not true in the real world of both pro and amateur bike racing. Most everything present in the game is the same but its the difficulty due to a lack of any real thought having been put in during the development phase of this manager game that is maddening.

Tours are present but they are far and few between. Apparently this monstrosity being an European born and bread affair caters mainly to euros because just getting in to a tour is very difficult. Tour entry is not based on merit, its based on a first come first served basis and this will lock your team out of ever being in a tour if you are unable to stay up all night long just to get in to a tour in this game. So being in an important race like a classic or a tour is a hit or miss thing. The game should send an invite to deserving teams that have accomplished something other than creating a team and then being the first to see the tour sign up. In the real world teams get invited to the TDF not because they were Johnny on the spot first but because they have some top riders on their team and because they earned it.

The only division that earns anything is the top division because they were able to make it to the top, so they get all the perks like being in the World Championships. This is one of this games major faults. Since it is extremely difficult to earn or get money in the game then that means that division 1 contains the only teams that can actually enjoy the game and believe me, even with that there is nothing to enjoy here. Division 1 can make money a lot easier than lower ranked teams so that means that they are stocked with the best riders and they get to be in the best races. This relegates everybody else to the position of needing to scratch their way trying to get a few bucks working jobs or trying to win races (which pay a pittance) in the low divisions. This keeps the top teams in the top division and all others trying to get to the top and that could literally take many years to do.

Everything in this game costs a lot and since it is extremely difficult to get money that makes the top division teams the ones that rule this game. Then they bitch and moan if any rules are changed so bad game things are never replaced or improved. Equipment such as wheels and frames cost an enormous amount of game money and it will take a new manager literally years to be able to save up in order to buy the stuff. Then when the manager gets it he can expect a whopping .5 to 2% help in winning races. 500k to purchase a bike frame for the measly 2% chance of doing better in a race is an insulting joke but thats the way this game plays out in pretty much every aspect of the game. Training a rider costs just as much and thats a hit or miss proposition because most of the talents or as I called them, non-talents just aren't even worth the bother of training in the first place. Then if you happen to find a good trainable talent the chances that he will stop training early and never reach potential is very likely.

I could go on and on but will stop at how the races are run. A team could have a rider that is above and beyond the talent of other riders and you would expect him to have a pretty good chance at winning or placing high in races but the outcome of races all seem to be based on a roll of the dice, plus the way top form is handled which is very stupid. Chances of getting injured or having an off day is very high and it's debilitating. It makes having an extremely expensive rider on your team be a waste of time in the first place because by the time they win a race or start doing good then their skills start declining. Off days seem to be used in order to keep the real good riders from excelling. That goes against real racing in the real world.

One of the worst aspects of this game is the many unclear rules that govern probably the biggest part of this game and it is simply atrocious. I have never seen or experienced anything like it in any other text management game and I have played many. The way rider transfers are handled is simply horrible and that right there is a very good reason to stay away. It's that bad. The transfer deal has to be negotiated on the games forum and it is subject to being approved by the game admin (when ever he might be around) and the other managers in the game. If other game managers get together and decide that you have made what they call a "too beneficial" trade for your team then you will be expelled from the game no questions asked or reasons excepted. Essentially getting kicked out of the game for unwittingly breaking the rules. It doesn't matter that it might have been unintentional or a first time offense because you will be tried and judged by the games developer Nick and you will be banned. Then he doesn't even have to common courtesy to inform you if or when the ban will end. Very insulting. I have never seen anything like that in any other game that I have played. Other text manager games have everything automated and handled by game programming so that no human bias or subjectivity will ever come in to play. This game relies on human intervention in order to trade or transfer and it is literally a mess. That's the major reason to stay away from this game because that is the only want to get better or good riders and talents.

The player population does contain some very nice people but if some of the other not so nice or agreeable ones don't like your opinions then they will troll your posting and they will pile on and you will be scorned. With that said, if you do decide to give this one a try do not share your opinions on the forum because you will be shouted down by what seems like a chorus of brown nosers trying to gain approval from game admin. With all of the above said, I wouldn't recommend this joke for any reason. Since 1 star is the worst you can rate a game, it gets only 1 star from me. Too bad zero stars can't be given because that is what I would rate it. My suggestion is to maybe create a team, go back to check things out for a week or so and then quit and abandon your team like literally thousands of other bike racing enthusiasts have done. You have been warned, stay away from this one, it's that bad.